Ty to sie nudzisz
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| Autor: | Xanth [ 7 wrz 2014, 11:20 ] |
| Tytuł: | Re: Tycoon, Business, God, Simulation Games |
Highlander napisał(a): wiem, ze pewnie sporo brakuje, ale... brak edycji. Dopisz w kolejnych postach, dokleję. X. |
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| Autor: | raggnarok [ 7 wrz 2014, 13:31 ] |
| Tytuł: | Re: Tycoon, Business, God, Simulation Games |
Ty to sie nudzisz
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| Autor: | Atherius [ 7 wrz 2014, 14:42 ] |
| Tytuł: | Re: Tycoon, Business, God, Simulation Games |
Expa wbija na kolejny lvl. ;> Ja to się najwięcej chyba nagrałem w simcity 2000, kolejne wersje już nie miały tego czegoś i były coraz bardziej uproszczone. W zeszłym roku bodajże kupiłem w humblu cities xl, ale już nie potrafiłem się wciągnąć jak kiedyś. No i jeszcze theme hospital i rollercoaster tycoon. |
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| Autor: | Highlander [ 7 wrz 2014, 15:04 ] |
| Tytuł: | Re: Tycoon, Business, God, Simulation Games |
raggnarok napisał(a): Ty to sie nudzisz liste w pracy zapoczatkowalem ;] Port Royale 2-3 to tez troche 'tego' rodzaju gra, czy bardziej jak Pirates bo nie znam serii? Trojka to ma calkiem sliczna grafike ale pewnie i tak gorsza od poprzedniczek ;p Przypomnial mnie sie jeszcze Constructor  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructo ... eo_game%29
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| Autor: | Xanth [ 7 wrz 2014, 19:04 ] |
| Tytuł: | Re: Tycoon, Business, God, Simulation Games |
Jak już Cities in Motion, to też 2: http://www.gry-online.pl/S016.asp?ID=19251 X. |
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| Autor: | Highlander [ 7 wrz 2014, 19:19 ] |
| Tytuł: | Re: Tycoon, Business, God, Simulation Games |
link dalem do serii  edit. przynajmniej tak mnie sie wydawalo.ale ponoc 2 czesci nie nalezy dotykac. |
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| Autor: | Highlander [ 9 wrz 2014, 20:22 ] |
| Tytuł: | Re: Tycoon, Business, God, Simulation Games |
Mam tę listę też gdzieś indziej i odezwał się lead programmer gry GearCity http://www.gearcity.info/ (podobna gra do Detroit będzie) Ciekawy post: Hello everyone, Eric.B here, owner and lead programmer of GearCity. (Tried to submit this as anon, but message wasn't approved by admins? Too many links probably, I stripped the links, and here is the raw text!) It might sound egotistical of me, but I consider my self an expert in the field of tycoon games. I own most of the games listed and many more that are not listed. (Old Timer, MotorCity, Air Bucks, AeroBiz?! There is a lot more you could add!!!  )So the OP question is: "Is this genre is dead?" My answer is, "It depends on which sub-genre you're talking about." To understand what I mean you have to look at the history of business games. In the 80s most business sims were practially spread sheet games. No real depth other than making choices basic and seeing what money comes from it. Games like Oil Barron and various stock market simulators were popular such as Wall Street Kid and Wall Street These games were not wildly popular, but they were not hard to make. They found profitability in their niche which attracted more developers and more games. Eventually we ended up in what I call the golden age of management games, the early 90s. In the early 90s text based business sims met graphics. There was still focus on depth, numbers, and realistic simulation. A lot of great games came out of this period, I consider most of these games "Management" Games and not tycoons. Games included, Detroit, Motor City, Air Bucks, Capitalism, and many more. With graphics came expanded budgets, expanded budgets means you need more sales, and very few of these games sold well. The main reason being the games were complex. They required you to think, they required you to know math, they required you to use logic, and have patience. Not kid friendly. And then in the mid 90s the tycoon fad came. The early 90s had tycoon games (Rail Road tycoon, Sim City) but they really didn't catch on in force till the late 90s when casual games likes Roller Coaster Tycoon, Rail Road Tycoon 2, Theme Park Tycoon, Zoo Tycoon, Yoot Tower etc. These games were wildly popular, and sold HUGE quantities. Over night Management simulators died, and everyone started making Tycoon games. Of course, with everyone making tycoon games, the quality started to decrease (Car Tycoon anyone?) and as a result by early 2000s, the entire market was dead. However as other games genres increased in artwork requirements (thus development money) people started making tycoon games again. The lack of competition means quality can shine. And as such tycoon games have started to gain back into popularity (GameDev Tycoon.) Casual game play means anyone can pick it up, cartoony graphics means it's friendly to most people, and lite numbers make it simple for the mind. But eventually there will be too many tycoon games, and the market will collapse on it self. As someone who makes a Management game, the management market is fairly, well, dead. While there is still money to be made in it, it is a much smaller niche than tycoon games. Luckily not many games fill that niche. But it is growing, and the early 90s will repeat it self. But I also suspect the same thing will happen to tycoon games. To sum it up, TLDR: No, you're at the rebirth years of Tycoon Games, they'll peak in 5-10 years, then die again. Managment Sims you'll have to look for the niche where it hides. It will never become as popular as it was in the early 1990s but a few companies (like me) will fill that niche. |
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| Autor: | Atherius [ 15 wrz 2014, 16:58 ] |
| Tytuł: | Re: Tycoon, Business, God, Simulation Games |
Z serii "i'm bitch". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW-ordsLy6c |
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| Autor: | Highlander [ 17 wrz 2014, 08:54 ] |
| Tytuł: | Re: Tycoon, Business, God, Simulation Games |
tiomor napisał(a): Settlersy czwóreczka ewentualnie dwójeczka odświeżona? A zapytam. Wie ktoś może jak wypada ten Remake Settlers II na tle oryginału? To samo z lepszą grafiką? Swoją drogę kiedyś znalazłem cos w stylu Settlers 2.5, jakies nieoficjalne Return to The Roots http://settlers2.net/return-to-the-roots/ No i tak w ogole co było zajebistego w Settlers IV, pamiętam, że nie podobal mnie się setting, jakieś czarnoksiężniki zamiast normalnych nacji... i olałem. Najlepiej wspominam 2 i 3. |
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| Autor: | Drusek [ 17 wrz 2014, 09:08 ] |
| Tytuł: | Re: Tycoon, Business, God, Simulation Games |
Highlander napisał(a): A zapytam. Wie ktoś może jak wypada ten Remake Settlers II na tle oryginału? To samo z lepszą grafiką? Wrażenia były takie, że to stara dobra dwójka z nową grafiką |
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| Autor: | Highlander [ 17 wrz 2014, 09:26 ] |
| Tytuł: | Re: Tycoon, Business, God, Simulation Games |
dzięki. Ogólnie to widze, że wyszło The Settlers II: 10th Anniversary + Vikings dostępne w złotej edycji u nas. Ale też coś takiego jaka osobna gra: The Settlers: Narodziny Kultur Co śmieszne niezbyt jest to dostępne w wersji didżital. Ciekawe czy moje DVD jeszcze działa hehe |
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| Autor: | Arturnik [ 17 wrz 2014, 09:51 ] |
| Tytuł: | Re: Tycoon, Business, God, Simulation Games |
mnie akurat ta reedycja settlers 2 nie podeszla kompletnie. zdecydowanie bardziej wole odpalic settlers 2 gold edition na gogu, dlaczego? podejrzewam ze jestem przyzwyczajony za bardzo do starych settlersow, podobnie jak z colonizacja czy alpha centauri, bo grywam od czasu do czasu w te gry. swoja droga kupilem sobie RCT3 z GMG za $5 i imo jest to bardzo dobry deal. mozna RCT3 nie lubic ale mozliwosci to gra ma niezle. |
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| Autor: | Highlander [ 17 wrz 2014, 10:00 ] |
| Tytuł: | Re: Tycoon, Business, God, Simulation Games |
Mysle, ze nostalgia robi swoje. Jak patrze na te stare domki z Settlers II to +20 do zajebistosci hehe Poza tym gry 2D dalej znośnie wyglądają. http://www.moddb.com/mods/return-to-the-roots/reviews ten mod o którym mowilem co do RCT3 to ja nie dawno odkryłem na swoim steamie, ze mam Sid meier's Railroads! lol |
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| Autor: | Highlander [ 26 wrz 2014, 16:46 ] |
| Tytuł: | Re: Tycoon, Business, God, Simulation Games |
http://www.gog.com/promo/atari_kalypso_ ... omo_260914 |
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| Autor: | Highlander [ 20 gru 2014, 21:51 ] |
| Tytuł: | Re: Tycoon, Business, God, Simulation Games |
Jeszcze w tym roku gralem, dzis natrafilem na to: http://www.indiedb.com/games/caesaria CaesarIA is remake of Caesar III in the big world of Ancient Rome. Open-source remake. Windows, Linux, Android, Mac. https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/caes ... -et-empera http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f ... =249746982 |
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| Autor: | Highlander [ 22 sty 2015, 10:33 ] |
| Tytuł: | Re: Tycoon, Business, God, Simulation Games |
CaesarIA na steam - f2p CaesarIA is a remake of an old-school economic strategy game, Caesar III which is a masterpiece among the games of this genre in our opinion. There are different economic strategy games and they can be broken down to subtypes but from my viewpoint Caesar encompasses planning, constructing, http://store.steampowered.com/app/327640/ |
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| Autor: | raggnarok [ 23 sty 2015, 00:50 ] |
| Tytuł: | Re: Tycoon, Business, God, Simulation Games |
Sorry kurwa, ale po chuj w to grac? Caesar 3 kosztuje cale 5 Euro, jest do niego bezproblemowy widescreen mod i zjada ten remake na sniadanie. No lol... |
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| Autor: | Highlander [ 23 sty 2015, 00:56 ] |
| Tytuł: | Re: Tycoon, Business, God, Simulation Games |
u mnie akurat nie dziala bezproblemowo. |
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| Autor: | Highlander [ 18 sty 2016, 22:03 ] |
| Tytuł: | Re: Tycoon, Business, God, Simulation Games |
Punch Club http://store.steampowered.com/app/394310/ calkiem fajnie wyglada. Wyszlo cos ciekawego z tycoonow w koncu? |
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