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| Jak maga wylevelowac do 60lvl w 7 dni https://mmorpg.pl/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=13363 |
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| Autor: | Huragan [ 30 maja 2005, 15:59 ] |
| Tytuł: | Jak maga wylevelowac do 60lvl w 7 dni |
Horde Grinding Spots: 0-15 - Questing fastest possible exp. 15-20 - The Barrens - Harpies * 15-20 - The Barrens - Bristleback(s) * 20-26 - Thousand Needles - Galak Scouts (etc) * 20-25 - The Barrens - Bael Dun Exavs * 20-25 - Hillsbrad - Hillsbrad Farmers (etc) 26-30 - Hillsbrad - Mud Gnolls * 25-30 - Thousand Needles - Grimtotems 30-38 - Shimmering Flats - All monsters. * 38-40 - Dustswallow Swamp - Very North East Islands, Murlock Warriors/Oracles. Horde And Alliance Grinding Spots: 40-46 - Ferales - Woodpaws (stay away from the ones that disease for slow casting speeds) ** 46-48 - Ferales - Frayfeather Skystormers * 48-50 - Ferales - Harpies 48-51 - Southwest of Gadgetzan - Thistleshrubs * 50-54 - Western Plaguelands - First 'field' to the left, assorted monsters. 54-60 - Western Plaguelands - Scarlet Lumberjacks 52-60 - Eastern Dire Maul - Lashers **** * = Recommended EXP Rates: Levels 30-40 = 18-20k exp/hour Levels 40-51 = 20-25k exp/hour Levels 52-60 = 40-50k exp/hour (Dire Maul) Note: I recently took off the Western Plaguelands spots off the recommended list because of the release of the Honor PVP system. If you are on a PVE server, these spots should remain perfectly fine for you. If you're on a PVP server, try the spots, however, if you're being ganked, just switch back to Thistleshrubs or the Un Guro Elementals until level 52. Spell Usage and Order: Typically, you don't want to use spells such as Arcane Missiles, Frost Bolt, Cone of Code, and other horrible DPM/slow spells. Your basic spell order should be something similar to; Fireball, Fireball, Fireball, Frost Nova + Strafe Away, Fireball (Until low HP), Scorch (Until dead). Of course, this doesn't work for everything, but you get the general idea. Click here for a video example Tip: Strafe SIDEWAYS away from monsters, instead of just backing up. Backing up is 70% movement, Strafing sideways = 100% Movement. I've seen LOTS of mages just back up. Getting optimal distance helps a lot - especially if you're using intelligence gear. Tip: Loot fast! Shift + Right click the body of the monster to auto-loot everything. So many people don't know about this feature, it's amazing. I admit, I didn't even know about it for a very long time. Knowing Your Mage: Knowing how much damage your spells do helps A LOT. This doesn't only help in grinding, but with PVP too. I would suggest getting a UI that displays the opponents (monster/player) HP as a percentage. This makes it easier to familiarize yourself with damage. I suggest using either Nurfed's UI or CT Mod. Personally, I use CT Mod and some of the Nurfed add-ons together. The general point to knowing your mage's damage, is optimizing your mana use. You don't want to cast a fireball when the monster has only 10% health left - because your fireball's normally do around 20%. Get the idea? UIs and Add-ons: As I just previously said, I personally use CT Mod with some of the Nurfed Add-ons. However, there are some other good UIs out there, such as Gypsy that lots of mages use. As for add-ons, I also use the following: CastAway: Spell Sequencer with adjustable reset timer Spell Alert: Notifies you when an enemy monster/player starts casting, and includes what spell they're casting. CoolDownHud: Displays transparent icons on screen of the spells that are on cooldown, along with how long is left on each. StatusBars: Displays your HP/MP at the bottom of the screen. Decursive: Lets you bind a hotkey to decursive, which will cast remove curse on you/your party/your raid, if they have a curse on them. You can find these UIs/Add-ons at www.Curse-Gaming.com. Mage Gear Initially, I would suggest all mages get any * of intelligence gear possible. Max your mana out as much as you can. If not, settle for Eagle/Owl gear. You don't want to start having eagle gear equipped (as a priority) until 40+. Meaning, every time you go to AH, check out gear for levels 40+, because eagle gear gets harder to come by. What about AOE leveling? Lots of people claim AOE leveling is the best possible way to level at all times. I haven't found this to be true. However, there are certain spots/levels when AOE grinding is the best and easiest way to level; the major and most popular spot being Dire Maul. If you solo Eastern DM, you can easily obtain 40-50k exp/hour (yes, this is unrested experience). Are there more spots? I haven't find many other AOE spots in which I consider viable. It's important to note that dying decreases your exp/hour rate A LOT, so if there's a good chance of you dying, it might not be worth the trouble at all. However, I must say that if you have a priest, then AOE leveling becomes a much better possibility. However, I wouldn't design my talents around that for obvious reasons; you always will need a priest to level at maximum speed, and it's not solo. Wondering how to AE grind DM? Click here to see a video of how it's done. Talents, What's The Best?! I've leveled 3 mages past level 40, in retail. Two of them being 60, and the last one being 40. This doesn't include any of the betas. I can safely tell you from what I've experienced, a pure fire build is the fastest way to level initially. This doesn't mean being pure fire at level 60, however. As many know, talents such as clear casting are very good. I've toyed with this a bit. I've noticed clear casting doesn't start making a good amount of difference until around 40-45. So, I would suggest picking a pure fire build (please stay away from some of the less-used fire talents, such as flame strike), and have it planned out in a way that when you hit 45, you'll have 16 arcane and the rest into fire. Why? 16 arcane is IAM, Clear casting, Evocation, and IAE. All the necessary and supporting spells a mage needs. Tips: Read Alcaras's thread on talents, located here (Click Me). Plan your build in a way that meets what I said, but conforms to one of the arcane/fire // fire/arcane builds. This might save you some cash in the long run, while giving you the opportunity to test out one of the best viable builds in the game. Managing Your Time Away From Grinding WoW is a very easy place to waste time in. From constantly checking AH to doing professions, you can find yourself with a huge amount of wasted time on your hands if you don't pay attention. - When checking AH, check for gear for later (but not too far off) levels too. Doing this will save you AH trips in the long run. - Know what spells you get every two levels. Typically, it isn't worth interrupting your grinding if the spell you receive isn't going to increase your grinding time. If, for example, you're getting a new fireball spell, that's definitely worth the trip. - WoW is WoW. There is no getting around it. Traveling in WoW takes a huge amount of time. I've seen a huge amount of people go looking for better pits, for an extra 1-2k an hour, instead of just sticking it out and getting that 20k+ for that amount of time the other guy wasted LOOKING for a place to level. Even with teleports, don't fool yourself, try to limit your traveling as much as you can. - Professions. Professions are a very popular time waster. STOCK UP. Instead of turning clothe into bolts, and bolts into gear, every time you get materials, STOCK UP. Do it all in big bundles. Keep the materials in your bags if you don't need the space (some spots don't drop so much, some do), if not, stock it up in a local bank. - Instances. Lower level instances are such a waste of time for a mage. The equipment received from doing them doesn't increase your performance like melee classes. I suggest skipping the lower level instances and head straight for the ones that matter; the end-game ones. - Dying. As I said earlier, if you're dying a lot, it might be best to chose an alternative pit. Dying reduces your exp/hour rate a lot. It pretty much is equivalent to AH trips as a mage. Best Professions For A Mage This is typically different for the type of server you're on. The best options for a PVP mage are Alchemy and Engineering (I cant confirm Engineering myself, but there's a large amount of mages that think so, so I'll go with that for now). Other options would be Enchanting and Tailoring. I wouldn't suggest tailoring, I consider it quite useless. I've had 260 tailoring on one of my mages, maxed tailoring on another. There's very few items you can make that you'll find useful, mainly bags. Tailoring is probably a lot more useful on a priest. Mage Armor or Ice Armor? It really depends on the monsters you're grinding on. You'll want to use Mage Armor when you can. Although the spell does very little, that little might be the 20 mana you need to caste a scorch or fireball to finish a monster up. If the monsters do quite high damage, use Ice Armor. An example of this, would be (from experience): Woodpaws in Ferales don't hit hard if you level on them correctly (the basic spell order I stated at the beginning of this guide), but the Stormers (initially) after Woodpaws hit faster/harder, so I had to use Ice Armor to grind there (only the first level). The 1-2 Levels Before A New Fireball Spell These levels can be VERY painful. What I found to help a lot is saving all quests for these levels. Even if, for example, it's quests you complete by simply grinding on monsters (Shimmering Flats), don't turn them in until they're going to turn gray or you're on one of the levels before a new fireball spell. I do NOT suggest doing purely quests, but knowing which quests are easy/grind-able on helps a lot. Also, a higher level friend might be more willing to help you, if they know it's the level (or two) before a new fireball spell, and they know you've stacked up quests so they have a wide selection to help you from. If you cant do this, simply keep grinding and deal with the extra couple hours or so of how long it takes to level. Personally, all I did was not turn in grind-able quests as long as I could hold out - until these levels came up. Dealing With The Boringness Of Grinding There's no way to get rid of it. There's ways to deal with it, fortunately. The basic ways are to simply play music while grinding, or position your TV to a location where you don't have to turn much to watch it, or chatting in game. Grinding doesn't require you to watch your screen 100% of the time, even on a PVP server, so watching TV isn't too hard. A method I personally like is talking to friends, RL or on team speak, both are good choices to help you forget about what you're doing. One thing I urge everyone NOT to think about is how long it's taking to level, it'll make you extremely bored/frustrated. Why Do People Grind If It's So Boring? A simple, yet complicated question. The simple answer is that we're power gamers/PVPers. We want to get as strong as possible as fast as possible. The part where it gets complicated is where casual gamers and such are reverting to grinding, too. With the current state of WoW, there's very little reason to do quests. One of the only reasons is that you get more involved with the story/history of WoW. Another is that it is more entertaining than grinding. While I'm not going to try arguing with either of those, I will tell you the following: There's very few rewards to doing quests, one of them being able to buy mounts from other races in your faction. This, funny enough, isn't very possible. The other being you get discounts. I'll let you know now that you can easily obtain an honorable status by questing from 1 to 14-15, which is what I did. Grinding rewards better than questing, more materials, more gold, more of a chance to receive rare drops (blues that bind on equip), and most importantly, faster/better exp. Also, you can grind to 60 and then proceed to do instances, which means you end up with the same gear as everyone else, but faster. How long did it take you to max, using these methods? A bit over 7 days. Of course, it can be done faster, if you already know all of these spots, fallback spots, etc, and if you go a fire/arcane build (I went Arcane/fire). Infact, people have already maxed faster than I did using this guide. Mage Macros: Here are some macros for mages. They work great for their purpose. Polymorph Macro Description: Announces the gender of the target, as well as their level. script if UnitSex("target") == 1 then SendChatMessage("Sheeping Female " .. UnitLevel("target") .. " %t","say") else SendChatMessage("Sheeping Male " .. UnitLevel("target") .. " %t", "say"); end /cast Polymorph(Rank 4) Counter-Spell Description: It will cancel whichever spell is casting and cast counter-spell. Works GREAT in PVP. /script SpellStopCasting() /script CastSpellByName("counterspell") WOTF Description: When you get feared in PVP, you automatically lose your target, this will automatically target the last person when using WOTF. /cast Will of the Forsaken(Racial) /script TargetLastEnemy() Reparty: Description: This will leave the party and reparty the person of your choice, resetting the instance. Very helpful with Dire Maul. Replace "Person" with the players name. /script LeaveParty() /invite Person I have a question/comment... If you have any questions at all, don't hesitate to ask. I would prefer it if you were to ask your questions in the following thread (it may be a good idea to read through it too, a lot of questions and tips were already given there): http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/threa ... &p=1&tmp=1 source: http://www.0kuntz.ca/ego/mage.htm |
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| Autor: | Zychoo [ 30 maja 2005, 16:21 ] |
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Dla mnie niewyobrazalne jest wejscie na pulap 40k exp/h. Rougiem, w rested mam max 500-600 xp/min, policzyc ile na godzine to daje latwo, ale to RESTED. Moze sprobuje tego Eastern Dire Maul. |
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| Autor: | RoozTer [ 30 maja 2005, 16:26 ] |
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Ja mialem kiedys 37k exp/h w azhara na blood elfach, bardzo fajny spot, zazwyczaj utrzymywalem sie na 30k/h. Z tym ze poprostu po 2h mi sie nie chcialo :/ |
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| Autor: | Zychoo [ 30 maja 2005, 16:28 ] |
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Bez resta? (nuda to zupelnie inne zagadnienie. Ja ziewam po 10 minutach. Chodzi o teorie expienia:) |
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| Autor: | RoozTer [ 30 maja 2005, 16:33 ] |
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Bez resta , zazwyczaj to muzyczka i jedziemy :>
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| Autor: | Zychoo [ 30 maja 2005, 16:35 ] |
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I micha na belta co dziesiec mobow:):) |
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| Autor: | RoozTer [ 30 maja 2005, 16:37 ] |
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 dokladnie
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| Autor: | Demandread [ 30 maja 2005, 16:49 ] |
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Cytuj: [...]Dealing With The Boringness Of Grinding
There's no way to get rid of it. There's ways to deal with it, fortunately. The basic ways are to simply play music while grinding, or position your TV to a location where you don't have to turn much to watch it, or chatting in game. Grinding doesn't require you to watch your screen 100% of the time, even on a PVP server, so watching TV isn't too hard. A method I personally like is talking to friends, RL or on team speak, both are good choices to help you forget about what you're doing. One thing I urge everyone NOT to think about is how long it's taking to level, it'll make you extremely bored/frustrated. [...] To na tym polega ta gra, lol....n/c. |
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| Autor: | Nukh [ 30 maja 2005, 17:58 ] |
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Ten temat pojawił się na forum magów jakieś półtora miesiąca temu. Nie jest to nic szczególnego... np. rogue może zrobić 60 poniżej 7 dni /played. To "osiągnięcie" dobrze pokazuje, że czysty grind jest dużo szybszą metodą levelowania od robienia questów (a czy przyjemnijszą to już inny temat). A co do DM i 50k/h to jest to prawda. Sam robiłem tam 52 - 60 i jest to zdecydowanie najlepszy spot dla maga na te poziomy. Koło 59 exp trochę zwalnia... do ~40k/h. |
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| Autor: | tomugeen [ 30 maja 2005, 18:36 ] |
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Blood elfy przed patchem byly idealne, nie grajac jakos hardkorowo wyrabialem 20k/h _priestem_, z crystal water od maga to do 25k/h bo nie musialem oszczedzac [nie mialem builda na spirit tap i inne bajery na mane - pure dmg] eastDM - Fakt, zdziwilem sie kiedy w 2h nabilem na rescie pol levelu, zreszta podobnie jest w brd, tyle, ze tam trzeba dluzej siedziec i miec dobrze zgrane party. Generalnie dzieki wielkie Huragan, wlasnie zaczalem robic retailowego maga, po sesji sprobuje go wygrindowac. |
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| Autor: | Domin [ 30 maja 2005, 20:58 ] |
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Mag+kumpel Holy Priest, sredni pull mialem ~10 mobkow, 20 sec trwala ich exterminacja potem 30s picie many i znowu ![:]](./images/smilies/icon_har1.gif){kind=icon} Sa fajne spoty gdzie jest masa mobkow idealnych do tego i maja bardzo szybki respawn  Np Murlocki w SoS , farmujac tam zdobylismy pare golden perelek
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| Autor: | Koma [ 30 maja 2005, 22:33 ] |
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Cytuj: Tip: Loot fast! Shift + Right click the body of the monster to auto-loot everything. So many people don't know about this feature, it's amazing. I admit, I didn't even know about it for a very long time.
nie wiedzialem :\ Imo dla mnie wazniejsze jest zeby za duzo nie lazic, HS tam gdzie levelujemy do AH teleportem i duze bagi. Na spocie siedze dopoki sie nie zapelnie albo nie przewinie sie jakis raid. nice find. |
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| Autor: | b-29 [ 30 maja 2005, 23:53 ] |
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a warlockiem na 35lvl gdzie najlpeiej expowac ?? (aliance) i pozniej tez gdzie ?? |
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| Autor: | Zychoo [ 31 maja 2005, 07:20 ] |
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Pajaki na polnoc od refuge pointe. |
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| Autor: | superXtra [ 31 maja 2005, 07:21 ] |
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Ja swojego maga zrobilem 14-15dni /played , nie chce mi sie sprawdzac dokladnie ile:) |
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| Autor: | Zychoo [ 31 maja 2005, 09:50 ] |
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W ramach eksperymentu polazlem dzisiaj na grind. Tluklem blood elfy, jednego za drugim, praktycznie bez resta, leczenie tylko po trzech na raz albo raz na 8-9 mobow za pomoca runecloth bandage, zasuwalem jak gupi, bez przestojow i oszczedzania, bez konwersacji na /g. Po prostu PURE GRIND, i co?!? I 750xp/min w RESTED! Jak Wy te 50k/h robicie bez resta. Czy moglby ktos nagrac 3 minutowy filmik, bo chce to zobaczyc na wlasne oczy:). Nie jestem w stanie wyobrazic sobie szybszego zabijania niz moje dzisiejsze. edit: rogiem na 55, nie magiem
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| Autor: | Shadhun [ 31 maja 2005, 10:28 ] |
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Moj rekord to ~45k/h bez rested ,rogue, byly to gnolle w feralasie (mystic i reaver). |
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| Autor: | Smolik [ 31 maja 2005, 11:08 ] |
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Ciekawsza bylaby praca w macdonaldzie przy robieniu frytek ... lepiej tak zarobic a potem kupic konto -uwazajcie bo zaraz jakas dziewczyna tu zajrzy i sie zajara kto wiecej expa/h ma najdluzszy teraz to 50k/h ? |
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| Autor: | Nukh [ 31 maja 2005, 11:30 ] |
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@Zychoo Expowanie magiem w DM wygląda następująco. Zaraz po wejściu do wschodzniego DM jest 7 (może 8, nie liczyłem) kwiatków 54 lvl, non elite. Pullujemy i zabijamy AE (co zajmuje koło 10 sekund). Lootujemy, regenerujemy hp, mane, wychodzimy z DM, resetujemy i od nowa. |
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| Autor: | Nuzgul [ 31 maja 2005, 11:45 ] |
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Hmm fajne spoty i wszystko cacy...ale prawde mowiac nie czaje podejscia do gry " byle szybko byle jak najwiekszy lvl" caly urok gry polega na zwiedzaniu swiata, pogadania z znajomymi, szukania ciekawostek, a nie ciagle lvl up lvl up itd.... Pozdrawiam Undead Mage Strormrange |
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