więc żeby wam uzmysłowić jak bardzo mylićie się co do air theu prosze nie znalazłem takiego ale jest smiter mój kumper irl z rose. ma 245 pie jak na kleryka to 55 wiecej niż normalnie (toa itemy). na tym prostym przykładzie widać, że z 176 base dam wali mnie za 232 spirit dam (taki sam typ jak air theu) z tym, że theu ma 209 base dam. log wykonano na mercu z 31% spirit resit bez resist bufa. więc prosze o to log.

[15:25:47] You hug Messerschmidt.
[15:26:01] You challenge Messerschmidt to a duel!
[15:26:07] Messerschmidt accepts the duel. Begin fighting!
[15:26:20] Coolwater was just killed by Gatekeeper Dommel!
[15:26:37] Alistan was just killed by Gatekeeper Dommel!
[15:26:57] @@[Chat] Messerschmidt: "196 piety"
[15:27:00] Messerschmidt casts a spell!
[15:27:00] You are hit for 226 damage.
[15:27:02] Lendakath was just killed by an apprentice necyomancer!
[15:27:06] Messerschmidt casts a spell!
[15:27:06] You are hit for 226 damage.
[15:27:10] Messerschmidt casts a spell!
[15:27:10] You are hit for 226 damage.
[15:27:14] @@[Chat] Messerschmidt: "nie zmienia sie"
[15:27:28] Himse was just killed by a plated fiend!
[15:27:41] @@[Chat] Messerschmidt: "245 piety"
[15:27:44] Illuin was just killed by a succubus!
[15:27:46] Messerschmidt casts a spell!
[15:27:46] You are hit for 232 damage.
[15:27:54] Messerschmidt casts a spell!
[15:27:54] You resist the effect!
[15:27:57] Messerschmidt casts a spell!
[15:27:57] You are hit for 232 damage.
[15:28:00] @@[Chat] Messerschmidt: "a wlasnie"
[15:28:04] @@[Chat] Messerschmidt: "232 -.-"
[15:28:14] @@[Chat] Messerschmidt: "wez szybko zobacz ile ci stun trwa"
[15:28:19] @@[Chat] Messerschmidt: "albo nie"
[15:28:22] @@[Chat] Messerschmidt: "bo to merc ;p"
[15:28:37] @@[Chat] Dav: "det 4 =)"
[15:28:45] @@[Chat] Dav: "pokaz niech skonam"
[15:28:46] @@[Chat] Messerschmidt: "wiec z 580 capa robi mi sie 232 z przegietym piety "
[15:28:51] Messerschmidt casts a spell!
[15:28:51] You are stunned by a flash of light!
[15:29:00] @@[Chat] Messerschmidt: ";p"
[15:29:03] Misstulip was just killed by a demoniac familiar!
[15:29:06] @@[Chat] Dav: "sekunda?"
[15:29:16] @@[Chat] Messerschmidt: "czyli polowa"
[15:29:25] @@[Chat] Messerschmidt: "wiec theurg"
[15:29:32] @@[Chat] Messerschmidt: "z 600 robi mu sie 300"
[15:29:49] @@[Chat] Messerschmidt: "z base resistow"
[15:29:55] @@[Chat] Dav: "jaki masz base dam na tym smajcie?"
[15:30:11] @@[Chat] Messerschmidt: "176"
[15:30:27] Taking Screenshot!
[15:30:53] @@[Chat] Dav: "theu ma 209 wiec teoretycznie 120 wiecej na zoltym bez rezystow"
[15:31:23] @@[Chat] Messerschmidt: "tylko ja nie mam"
[15:31:28] @@[Chat] Messerschmidt: "+13 smite teraz ;p"
[15:31:29] @@[Chat] Dav: "ale wez dodaj do tego resist bufa 16% chociaz i masz za 300 max"
[15:31:55] @@[Chat] Messerschmidt: "wiec gostek wedlug mnie by walil 260-300 max lol"

nie walniecie theurgiem za 450 i nie ma jaj. może od czasu do czasu za 310+140 critt to tak ale nie wmawiajcie mi że theurg rulez bo sam miałem i już jest earth spec.
nie mówimy chyba o rr7+ theu prawda? takiego chyba nie nikt z nas nie ma i wypowiadać się nie może.

2 shamany to jedna klasa mnie bez det... Na exc naprawde fotm grupy biegaja w takim skladzie :aug/mend healer ; mend/pac healer; pac/mend healer cave/aug shaman savage savage zerg warrior/healer/zerk/savage; i nawet juz zrezygnowali ze skalda bo healer speed +sprint to prawie spd5 tak wiec jak widac ilosc klas bez det jest zredukowana do minimu. Poza tym jak shaman musi zaczynac leczyc to znaczy ze i tak juz przejebane, no raz od swita moze hilnac itp. Bez cave speca shaman ma tylko signle root co mozna o kant dupy potluc (pomijajc fakt ze bez speca 70% to beda resisty, poza tym wszystko co ma ae przed nazwa jest zajebiste na hib caster grupy) gdy ma dd dot i bolt jest dobry do zdejmowania castero stojacych na uboczu itp. moznaby tak dlugo wiliczyc twoje IMO bledne rozumowanie, ale mysle ze to styknie...

Ja nadal sie powstrzymuje

Czy ja dobrze widze ze on porownuje Smite Klera do Theurga ?:)

oki
dzisiaj tutaj postne logi z RvR air theurgiem
rr4+

dobrze widzisz.
niewiele sie różnią, jedyną różnicą jest to ze obecnie ten smiter ma 45 wiecej acuity niż mój niebufnięty necro. czyli jakieś 20 mniej po bufie. dam cap jest taki sam wynosi 3x base.

i tbh to nie jest porównywanie niczego do nikogo! pokazuje ile traci sie na resistach, więc theurg nie wali za 450 bez criticala) a to było tylko 31%. stwierdzam że nie ma co kontynuować tego tematu.

hahahah, więm o co wam chodzi! pizgają was theurgi za 450!!! TAK, ale uprzednio full mind sorc zdejmuje wam 50% spirit resita, więc do !@#$ nie klucić się, że jakikolwiek jebany air theu walnie mnie za 450 bez tego.

i co mają na cely te 2 posty? zwiększasz ilość w uczestniczonych dyskusjach?

Nie, mialo na celu zmniejszenie ilosc bezsensownego pierdolenia z twojej strony...

poprawka.
sorc w body ma decrease.

odezwał się mądrala lol. zgasiłeś mnie.

kończę tu pisać bo takiego hamstwa nie toleruję. idzcie do alb w takim razie.

dzięki gabri za mały sparing, jesteś chyba jedyną inteligętną osobą która się ozdezwała, no może jescze frog, który się poprawił.
pozdro i papa.

Widze ze wiekszosc albow lubi uwazac sie za ofiary i gimpow moze oni tak lubia ?:)

o ja ale ze mnioe cham! to sie narobilo... A w swoich kregach mam nieposzlakowana opinie...

twoj powyzszy log pozostawie bez komentarza. pragne tylko powiedziec ze przez ponad rok grania theurgiem troche jednak wiem. srednia 350dmg. wyjatki to bylo 560 (oczywiscie 0 resistow) nie liczac zadnych critow. i nic nie zmieni mojego zdania bo po prostu wiem. moge ci pokazac zdjecia gdzie wale za 500(bez praktycznie resistow - stare zdjecia niestety), albo za 380 bez zadnych buffow etc. a ty mi pokazesz zdjecia za 200. no i co z tego wyniknie ? fakt ze jestescie gimpami.

to samo tyczy sie infilow. spytaj sie kogokolwiek tutaj kto gra dw infilem, czy ma jakiekolwiek problemy z sb...

kwestie szaman juz wyjasniono.

apropo 2.10 jeszcze, chodzi o jedno, o pieprzone weze na zewnatrz... zawsze ktos zalaguje pojdzie afk z tych 40 osob i chuj na 7 minut strzela.

"speed
haste buff/proc także nie zmniejsza przecież damage, qui kiedyś zmniejszał ale mieli to wyciąć"

mieli tez wprowadzic kiedys nekromancje w uo...

Oto i moj log. NIKT mi nie debuffowal.
EDIT: Damage bez power relics.

[17:00:41] You target [Sandrielle]
[17:00:41] You examine Sandrielle. She is a member of an enemy realm!
[17:00:42] You begin casting a Blasting Maelstrom spell!
[17:00:44] You are already casting a spell! You prepare this spell as a follow up!
[17:00:44] You cast a Blasting Maelstrom Spell!
[17:00:44] You hit for 433 (-152) damage!
[17:00:44] You critical hit for an additional 60 damage!
[17:00:44] You begin casting a Blasting Maelstrom spell!
[17:00:46] You are already casting a spell! You prepare this spell as a follow up!
[17:00:46] Sweeet was just killed by Hyperon!
[17:00:46] You get 186 realm points!
[17:00:46] You earn 16 extra realm points!
[17:00:46] You get 9 bounty points!
[17:00:46] You get 1,900,515 experience points!
[17:00:48] You've been in combat recently, the spell has no effect on you!
[17:00:49] Clus was just killed by Aledon!
[17:00:49] You get 233 realm points!
[17:00:49] You earn 20 extra realm points!
[17:00:49] You get 7 bounty points!
[17:00:49] You get 4,862,819 experience points!
[17:00:53] You begin casting a Blasting Maelstrom spell!
[17:00:55] You cast a Blasting Maelstrom Spell!
[17:00:55] You hit for 433 (-152) damage!
[17:00:55] You just killed Sandrielle!
[17:00:55] Sandrielle just died. Her corpse lies on the ground.
[17:00:55] You get 234 realm points!
[17:00:55] You earn 21 extra realm points!
[17:00:55] You get 8 bounty points!
[17:00:55] You get 4,240,751 experience points!
[17:00:59] You target [Blossomss]
[17:00:59] You examine Blossomss. He is a member of an enemy realm!
[17:01:00] You begin casting a Blasting Maelstrom spell!
[17:01:00] Aledon casts a spell!
[17:01:00] You've been in combat recently, the spell has no effect on you!
[17:01:00] You are already casting a spell! You prepare this spell as a follow up!
[17:01:02] Aledon casts a spell!
[17:01:02] You cast a Blasting Maelstrom Spell!
[17:01:02] You hit for 504 (-82) damage!
[17:01:02] You begin casting a Blasting Maelstrom spell!
[17:01:02] You are already casting a spell! You prepare this spell as a follow up!
[17:01:04] Mudrose casts a spell!
[17:01:04] Blossomss was just killed by Mudrose!
[17:01:04] You get 196 realm points!
[17:01:04] You earn 17 extra realm points!
[17:01:04] You get 4 bounty points!
[17:01:04] You get 4,314,563 experience points!
[17:01:04] You cast a Blasting Maelstrom Spell!
[17:01:04] You hit for 504 (-82) damage!
[17:01:04] You must select a target for this spell!


[17:15:47] You cast a Major Friction Spell!
[17:15:47] Eeenigma is harried by unnatural winds!
[17:15:49] You prepare to quickcast your next spell.
[17:15:50] You begin quickcasting a Confusing Wind spell!
[17:15:50] You are already casting a spell! You prepare this spell as a follow up!
[17:15:51] Eeenigma is stunned by a burst of air.
[17:15:51] Ivoryvale resists the effect!
[17:15:51] You must wait 2 seconds to cast a spell!
[17:15:53] Luigsihriana was just killed by Pyrot!
[17:15:53] You get 176 realm points!
[17:15:53] You earn 31 extra realm points!
[17:15:53] You get 5 bounty points!
[17:15:53] You get 2,669,930 experience points!
[17:15:53] You earn 800,979 outpost bonus experience!
[17:15:54] Asgoth casts a spell!
[17:15:54] You are stunned by a barrage of color!
[17:15:55] You target [Asgoth]
[17:15:55] You examine Asgoth. He is a member of an enemy realm!
[17:15:56] Hyperon casts a spell!
[17:15:57] Hyperon casts a spell!
[17:15:58] Rankill attacks Asgoth with his shield!
[17:15:58] Hyperon casts a spell!
[17:15:58] Asgoth was just killed by Hyperon!
[17:15:58] You get 230 realm points!
[17:15:58] You earn 41 extra realm points!
[17:15:58] You get 6 bounty points!
[17:15:58] You earn 1 extra bounty points!
[17:15:58] You get 4,002,219 experience points!
[17:15:58] You earn 1,200,665 outpost bonus experience!
[17:16:00] Mudrose plays a song!
[17:16:00] You auto-face Firbolg.
[17:16:00] You target [Eeenigma]
[17:16:00] You examine Eeenigma. He is a member of an enemy realm!
[[17:16:02] You cast a Blasting Maelstrom Spell!
[17:16:02] You hit for 380 (-254) damage!
[17:16:03] You begin casting a Blasting Maelstrom spell!
[17:16:03] Hyperon casts a spell!
[17:16:04] You cast a Blasting Maelstrom Spell!
[17:16:04] You hit for 380 (-254) damage!
[17:16:04] You critical hit for an additional 121 damage!
[17:16:04] You begin casting a Blasting Maelstrom spell!
[17:16:04] You are already casting a spell! You prepare this spell as a follow up!
[17:16:05] Celicia was just killed by Eldor!
[17:16:05] You get 236 realm points!
[17:16:05] You earn 42 extra realm points!
[17:16:05] You get 9 bounty points!
[17:16:05] You earn 1 extra bounty points!
[17:16:06] Hyperon casts a spell!
[17:16:06] Eeenigma was just killed by Hyperon!
[17:16:06] You get 230 realm points!
[17:16:06] You earn 41 extra realm points!
[17:16:06] You get 6 bounty points!
[17:16:06] You earn 1 extra bounty points!
[17:16:06] You get 3,920,519 experience points!
[17:16:06] You earn 1,176,155 outpost bonus experience!
[17:16:06] Aledon casts a spell!
[17:16:06] You cast a Blasting Maelstrom Spell!
[17:16:06] You hit for 533 (-102) damage!
[17:16:06] You critical hit for an additional 207 damage!
[17:16:08] You begin casting a Blasting Maelstrom spell!
[17:16:08] You auto-face Sylvan.
[17:16:09] You are already casting a spell! You prepare this spell as a follow up!
[17:16:10] You cast a Blasting Maelstrom Spell!
[17:16:10] You hit for 336 (-298) damage!
[17:16:10] You begin casting a Blasting Maelstrom spell!
[17:16:10] You are already casting a spell! You prepare this spell as a follow up!
[17:16:11] Hyperon casts a spell!
[17:16:11] You are already casting a spell! You prepare this spell as a follow up!
[17:16:12] You cast a Blasting Maelstrom Spell!
[17:16:12] You hit for 336 (-298) damage!
[17:16:12] You begin casting a Blasting Maelstrom spell!
[17:16:12] You are already casting a spell! You prepare this spell as a follow up!
[17:16:13] Aledon casts a spell!
[17:16:13] Markuss was just killed by Aledon!
[17:16:13] You get 230 realm points!
[17:16:13] You earn 41 extra realm points!
[17:16:13] You get 6 bounty points!
[17:16:13] You earn 1 extra bounty points!
[17:16:13] You get 5,242,880 experience points!
[17:16:13] You earn 1,572,864 outpost bonus experience!
[17:16:13] You cast a Blasting Maelstrom Spell!
[17:16:13] You hit for 336 (-298) damage!
[17:16:13] You begin casting a Blasting Maelstrom spell!
[17:16:14] Hyperon casts a spell!
[17:16:14] You auto-face Celt.
[17:16:14] Mudrose casts a spell!
[17:16:14] You are already casting a spell! You prepare this spell as a follow up!

[17:16:15] You cast a Blasting Maelstrom Spell!
[17:16:15] Ivoryvale resists the effect!
[17:16:15] You begin casting a Blasting Maelstrom spell!
[17:16:15] Aledon takes a second wind.
[17:16:15] Mudrose takes a second wind.
[17:16:15] Hyperon takes a second wind.
[17:16:15] You feel invigorated!
[17:16:17] You are already casting a spell! You prepare this spell as a follow up!
[17:16:17] You cast a Blasting Maelstrom Spell!
[17:16:17] You hit for 406 (-228) damage!
[17:16:17] You just killed Ryik!
[17:16:17] Ryik just died. His corpse lies on the ground.
[17:16:17] You get 228 realm points!
[17:16:17] You earn 41 extra realm points!
[17:16:17] You get 5 bounty points!
[17:16:17] You get 5,242,880 experience points!
[17:16:17] You earn 1,572,864 outpost bonus experience!
[17:16:17] You must select a target for this spell!
[17:16:17] Hyperon casts a spell!
[17:16:17] Aledon casts a spell!
[17:16:18] You auto-face Sylvan.
[17:16:18] You begin casting a Blasting Maelstrom spell!
[17:16:18] You are already casting a spell! You prepare this spell as a follow up!
[17:16:19] Aledon casts a spell!
[17:16:19] Ivoryvale was just killed by Aledon!
[17:16:19] You get 232 realm points!
[17:16:19] You earn 41 extra realm points!
[17:16:19] You get 7 bounty points!
[17:16:19] You earn 1 extra bounty points!
[17:16:19] You get 3,761,888 experience points!
[17:16:19] You earn 1,128,566 outpost bonus experience!
[17:16:20] Hyperon casts a spell!
[17:16:20] You cast a Blasting Maelstrom Spell!
[17:16:20] You hit for 488 (-146) damage!
[17:16:20] Ivoryvale is dead!

[17:21:09] Wait until it expires. Spell Failed
[17:21:09] You begin casting a Blasting Maelstrom spell!
[17:21:11] You are already casting a spell! You prepare this spell as a follow up!
[17:21:11] Aledon casts a spell!
[17:21:11] You cast a Blasting Maelstrom Spell!
[17:21:11] You hit for 515 (-70) damage!
[17:21:11] You begin casting a Blasting Maelstrom spell!
[17:21:11] Ocup was just killed by Hyperon!
[17:21:11] Ocup just died. His corpse lies on the ground.
[17:21:11] Ocup has been killed recently and is worth no realm points!
[17:21:11] Ocup has been killed recently and is worth no experience!
[17:21:12] Aledon casts a spell!
[17:21:12] You cast a Blasting Maelstrom Spell!
[17:21:12] You hit for 515 (-70) damage!
[17:21:12] You must select a target for this spell!
[17:21:14] You've been in combat recently, the spell has no effect on you!
[17:21:15] You auto-stick Rankill.

[17:23:03] You target [Zoon]
[17:23:03] You examine Zoon. He is a member of an enemy realm!
[17:23:04] You cast a Major Friction Spell!
[17:23:04] Zoon is harried by unnatural winds!
[17:23:06] You begin casting a Blasting Maelstrom spell!
[17:23:06] Eldor attacks Zoon with his spear!
[17:23:07] You are already casting a spell! You prepare this spell as a follow up!
[17:23:07] Rankill attacks Zoon with his shield!
[17:23:08] Zoon was just killed by Aledon!
[17:23:08] Zoon just died. His corpse lies on the ground.
[17:23:08] You get 242 realm points!
[17:23:08] You earn 21 extra realm points!
[17:23:08] You get 12 bounty points!
[17:23:08] You earn 1 extra bounty points!
[17:23:08] You get 5,242,880 experience points!
[17:23:09] You cast a Blasting Maelstrom Spell!
[17:23:09] You hit for 416 (-170) damage!

[17:41:51] You cast a Blasting Maelstrom Spell!
[17:41:51] You hit for 467 (-148) damage!
[17:41:51] You critical hit for an additional 196 damage!
[17:41:51] You begin casting a Blasting Maelstrom spell!
[17:41:51] You are already casting a spell! You prepare this spell as a follow up!
[17:41:53] Cyberstrike casts a spell!
[17:41:53] You cast a Blasting Maelstrom Spell!
[17:41:53] You hit for 467 (-148) damage!
[17:41:53] You critical hit for an additional 210 damage!
[17:41:53] You just killed Zoon!
[17:41:53] Zoon's extra health fades.
[17:41:53] Zoon's extra strength fades.
[17:41:53] Zoon just died. His corpse lies on the ground.
[17:41:53] You get 242 realm points!
[17:41:53] You earn 21 extra realm points!
[17:41:53] You get 12 bounty points!
[17:41:53] You earn 1 extra bounty points!
[17:41:53] You get 5,242,880 experience points!

_________________
Vautrin The Skald,
Midgard Excalibur

<font size=-1>[ Ta wiadomość została zmieniona przez: frogmaster dnia 2004-04-10 16:37 ]</font>

/pwnt ze tak powiem

Zaba chcialo ci sie edytowac loga coby pozmieniac dmg ?

Co do Infa to prosze bardzo nie pierdolic glupot ze SB bije DW infa. Gralem Infem przez prawie 2 lata, nigdy ale to nigdy (odkad bylem DW spec) nie zdazylo mi sie pasc 1vs1, nawet 1vs2 zadko sie zdazalo. Inf jest przgiety i to bardzo, po pierwsze DF a po drugie zajebisty dmg z DW.

Porownanie clera i szamana ? moze porownamy ich jako bb.......szaman = base bufy plus spece, kler = base bufy plus spece PLUS ZAJEBISTY AF BUFF.

<font size=-1>[ Ta wiadomość została zmieniona przez: Raku dnia 2004-04-09 19:18 ]</font>

no troche mi zajelo napisanie tego chlamu

Hm....moje "trzy grosze"...ZDROWYCH i SPOKOJNYCH SWIAT...he he

Ray, ty sie cos szybko denerwujesz, wiem, ze to moze nierowne sklady 5 na jednego ale...

Prawda jest taka :

mythic zrobil najpierw alb, pozniej wrzucil jak popadnie w mid, przemyslal sprawe, troche u nich poukladal i dorzucil gimpniety hib.
pozniej popoprawiali troche (patche), ale zawsze zostal stosunek poczatkowy.

Tak wiec nadal najprostsza i najciekawsza pod wzgledem klas jest alb, pozniej mid, a na koniec gimp hib:P Oczywiscie sa wyjatki, ale ogolnie to tak wyglada.


P.S. Jestes typowym przykladem EU alba. Ma zajebisty realm (choc oczywiscie nie 2 razy lepszy od innych, poprosu lepszy o to deczko), a narzeka ze to badziew.

lapi nie zmieniaj tematu

nieaktualne - wprowadzili nekro do UO

nie ma to jak sie samemu pwn.

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